October 2003: Govt of West Bengal replied negatively to the appeals of alumni. Please contact all responsible persons (addresses are provided at the end) till they hear us.
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:37:23 +0530
From: Manotosh Biswas
Subject: Conversion/Upgradation of B.E. College (D.U.) into a Centre of Excellence
Government of West Bengal
Higher Education Department
Bikash Bhavan, Salt Lake, Kolkata-91
From : Shri M.Biswas,
Deputy Secretary to the Govt. of West Bengal.
1) Dr. Kajal Gupta, D.Sc(Eng), Ph.D.(Lond) B.E.(Cal),FCGI, FMA Senior Technologist, NASA/DFRC, Edwards, California.
2) Dr. Arun Kumar Ghosh, M.S.P.Eng.,C.E.O., AKG Associates
3) Indranil Hazra, 40, Aischylou Street, 3096 Limassol Cyprus
4) Pradip Kr. Chatterjee, BE(Cal), ME(Cal), MSCE (University of Washington, P.E.(Colorado), P.E.(California), Texas 76248-7601 USA.
5) Tarun Kr. Basu, BE, ME(Cal), CE(Columbia), MBA(Carnegie)
6) Dulal Chandra Bhowmik, Murrysville, PA 15668 USA
7) Subhas Chandra Gupta, Lexington, MA 02421 USA.
I thankfully acknowledge the receipt of your communication addressed to the Minister-in-Charge of this Department, rather belatedly.
While appreciating your concern for the status of the B.E.College (DU), the century old Technology Institution of the State, I am directed to say that for the present, there is no proposal for conversion of B. E. College (DU) into an Institution like IIT or IISC, Bangalore as West Bengal is already having one such institute at Kharagpur. However, the State Government is in the process of up-grading B. E. College (D.U.) into 'Shibpur University of Science & Technology' with the characteristic of a full fledged university. As you will agree, as 'a full-fledged University', present B. E. College (DU) shall get a wider scope for both horizontal as well as vertical expansion.
Thank you once again for your valuable suggestions.
Please contact the following persons till we achieve our goal to convert B E College to an Institute of National Importance. The addresses are as follow:
Please read a related news article published previously. Also read the following related news.
The Hon’ble President
Republic of India
Shri Atal Behari Vajpayee
Prime Minister of India
3 Race Course Road
New Delhi 110001, India
Dr. M.M. Joshi
Dept. of Education
Ministry of Human Resource Development
Government of India
New Delhi 110001
Shri Buddhadeb Bhattacharya
Chief Minister of West Bengal
Govt. of West Bengal,
Kolkata - 700001, India
Prof. Satya Sadhan Chakraborty
Dept. of Higher Education
Govt. of West Bengal,
Kolkata - 700001, India
|Varsity status for BE soon|
[ FRIDAY, OCTOBER 31, 2003 03:08:51 AM ]
KOLKATA: West Bengal will soon have another university if the state Assembly passes the relevant Bill this winter session.
BE College, Shibpur, which is a deemed university, will be upgraded to a full-fledged one, after the Bill is passed. The nomenclature will then change to Shibpur University of Science and Technology.
Confirming the state higher education department’s decision, department secretary Jawhar Sircar, said, Shibpur BE College has had an excellent track record and deserves the status of a full fledged university. Hence, the state government decided to place the Bill in the winter session of the Assembly.”
The draft has already been readied by the department and is presently being vetted by the state law department. After it is sent back to the department, it will be sent to the Cabinet for approval. On getting the approval, the Bill will be ready for placing in the Assembly. Meanwhile, there is cause for celebration at the BE College campus.
Students and teachers appeared satisfied that they would finally get their due after a long time. “The concept of deemed university is relatively new. It signifies a status which is something between college and university. We find it difficult to explain to people of other states and foreign countries what a ‘deemed’ university signifies,” says a registrar Sabyasachi Sengupta.
The university status will make ‘Shibpur’ autonomous with the right to frame its own laws, under the overall guidance of the state government. An university status will mean more funds from the UGC, AICTE, department of science and technology of the Central government and the higher education department of the state government. “Our research students will get more projects from these agencies.
But most importantly, our certificates will certainly carry more weight now,” Sengupta added. Varsity status for BE soon The Joint Entrance Examination 2004 will be held on April 24-25. This was announced on Thursday by WBJEE Board member secretary Sudipto Mukherjee, ending the Board’s month-long tussle with Higher Secondary Council over the dates. The HS statistics examination is scheduled on April 26.
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|This is a great news to listen that our college will become IIT in near future, but we can never ever say that we are from IIT. This is one of the unfortunate event in my life. Anyway we are proud of our college and whatever the status it will have in future, we will be with our collge where we have spent four golden years in our life. Hope to see our collge as an IIT when I will land up in the college next time. |
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Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:39:53 -0800 (PST)
From: "TARUN BASU"
Subject: Conversion of Engineering Colleges to IIT
Dr. M.M. Joshi December 2, 2003
Dept. of Education
Ministry of Human Resource Development
Government of India
New Delhi 110001
Dear Dr. Joshi:
In opening the new building for Biotechnology
education at IIT Kanpur, Prime Minister Vajpayee
mentioned that the Central Government is planning to
convert five existing engineering colleges into IITs
depending on their curriculum and infrastructures. I
understand that your department will start
deliberations on this matter from 15th of December,
2003. Based on the history and role of Bengal
Engineering College in educating technical personnel
for the last 150 years, I would request you to
seriously consider this Institute to be one of the
five candidates for conversion. As a proud alumnus of
this Institute who has attended two of the best
universities in USA, I can definitely say that it has
one of the best facilities among the educational
institutes in India and an excellent student body. A
brief history of the college is provided below for
The Bengal Engineering College, now a 'Deemed
University' (BECDU), was established in 1856 with the
objective of introducing engineering education in
India. B. E. College (better known as Shibpur
Engineering College) is the second oldest engineering
institution in India with a long and checkered past.
In recognition of its services to the nation in
engineering education and research over the years &
infrastructure as well as its potential, the UGC/MHRD
authorities recommended to confer the Status of Deemed
University in 1992 to this Century-old Engineering
College. The timely help from W.B. Government and
recommendation of Bhabotosh Datta Commission on Higher
Education (at W.B.) in 1984 were essential for this
status change. The Bengal Engineering College (Deemed
University) started functioning as an autonomous body
from 16th February 1993. The mission of the
institution is to impart superior education and remain
engaged in advanced research through continued
development and innovation with ambitious, efficient
and accountable program.
Since then, BECDU has been vigorously pursuing the
cause of technical education by opening up new
programs, like M.Sc. in Physics, Chemistry, Geology
and Mathematics, M.B.A. in the School of Management
Sciences, B.E. in Information Technology, P.G. degree
& diploma in Information Technology in the School of
Information Technology, part-time P.G. degree courses
in Civil Engineering and Metallurgy for practicing
engineers. You may be aware that recently a team from
BECDU was placed 6th among sixty (60) teams from
Institutes in India and Bangladesh in IBM sponsored
ACM International Collegiate Programming Contest –
2003 (Asia Region). In this connection, may I mention
that out of all IITs, only IIT-Bombay & IIT-Kharagpur
were ahead of BECDU? Other IITs were somewhere
between 15th to 60th.
In addition to teaching, BECDU faculty members have
been involved in quality research works as evidenced
by their publications in international journals of
repute and abilities to get funding for a large number
of projects from AICTE, UGC and other agencies.
However, flow of fund/grant has not kept pace with the
expansion of programs. The shortage of fund is
hindering the proper functioning of the Institute.
Opening up of new courses without corresponding
increase in faculty strength, increasing the in-take
of students without corresponding increase of
infrastructures (such as facilities for laboratories,
library and hostels) will ultimately affect the
academic excellence, a hallmark of this Institute.
To maintain the growth of technical institutions,
substantial financial support is required at regular
intervals. I believe that Government of India has
chosen B.E. College to be one of the twelve Institutes
to share World Bank Aid for improving technical
education and its infrastructures. This will amount
to Rs 500 million over ten years that will be part
grant and part loan. This is definitely going to be
of great help. However as B. E. College is going to
celebrate its 150th anniversary in 2006, it is
imperative that the Central Government considers
converting it into a National Institute that will be a
center of excellence for engineering and science
education. As India becomes a part of global service
economy, it will need more world-class institutions
that will train technocrats to lead the country in the
21st century. Although the State Government is
supposed to initiate the process, it may be easier if
Central Government takes necessary steps and issue
appropriate orders to the State Government. I would
fervently request you, as a matter of national
interest, to give priority to this issue.
If the Central Government finds it necessary, MHRD can
appoint a committee to look into the strengths and
weaknesses of the existing status of BECDU and suggest
ways and means to convert this age-old institution
into an Institute of national importance with the
funding from the Central Government. The committee
may consist of nominees from the UGC, MHRD, AICTE and
distinguished alumni of the erstwhile B. E. College
from India and abroad engaged in academics/industry,
academicians from IITs, IISc etc. It may review all
aspects of the Deemed University since its inception
in 1993 and recommend steps for preparing this
Institution for achieving National Institute of
Excellence status in its 150th anniversary in 2006.
A remarkable service can be rendered to the people of
the West Bengal and also to the nation if it is
converted, like the engineering college at Roorkee, to
a National Academy like IITs or IISc. I am sure that
this pioneering engineering institute which has been
consistently engaged in the under-graduate and
post-graduate education as well as research programs
for a long time and produced engineers of repute
working here and abroad will be a worthy National
Institute and a center of excellence. I would request
you to pursue this issue as matter of vital interest
to the nation. I thank you for your time and look
forward to hearing a positive response from you soon.
With best regards,
Tarun K. Basu
BE, ME (Cal), CE (Columbia), MBA (Carnegie Mellon),
PE (NY, TX, IL, LA), M.ASCE, M.ASME
6420 Scotsbluff Court, Arlington, TX 76001-5496,
|Comments by Arun Ghosh from Canada on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 at 08:57 - IP Logged |
|We can not escape political influence. We made some progress - deemed university to varsity status. We must not stop but continue to press for IIT status through lobbying and exerting political and business influence through our alumni both in India and abroad |
|Comments by Anupam Ghosal from India on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 at 05:27 - IP Logged |
|If BEC can get in the IIT bracket, it certainly would be a great step forward. And why not - it is one of the premier and certainly one of the oldest technical institution - worth consideration. Let us petition both state as well as central goverment on this issue. I feel to have enough weightage for consideration - State goverment would require to second our demand. Hence first job would be to convince the WB goverment. |
|Comments by Gautam Datta from India on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 at 04:16 - IP Logged |
|I am very happy to know that we have initiated the process of getting an IIT status.It is obvious, by giving our alma mater IIT status; state govt will loose their control over this college. The logic of having already one IIT in Kharaghpur is not logical, because Roorkee got IIT status inspite of having one IIT (IIT Kanpur) in UP. |
If the political leaders and beurocrats wanted to take this issue seriously, we would have been given IIT status 50 years back! As we know BEC is the second oldest engineering college in India, then why we have to beg our state govt for an IIT status? We can demand directly from our central govt. we have already consumed too much time in begging, now its time to demand things directly from central Govt.
|Comments by Webmaster for Dr. Karmakar from India on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 at 16:02 - IP Logged |
|Update from Dr. Santanu Karmakar:|
May you please note my another e-mail address as santanu_karmakar at hotmail.com. The problem of our network system stil persists.
Dr. Sabyasachi SenGupta, the Registrar has visited to the office of MHRD at Delhi on Dec 1, 2003 and felt that the official procedure of selecting five
promising institutes for their conversion to IITs would be started by 15th December 2003. We are still struggling to forward the said proposal to the MHRD by the Govt. of West Bengal. Hope we will overcome the hurdles soon.
|Comments by Webmaster for Tarun Basu from United States on Monday, November 24, 2003 at 15:22 - IP Logged |
|My dear Santanu:|
I had sent copies of two letters to you in the last month but they came back. Now I know the reason. We got the response from the MIC only after Kajalda's brother (a director at Tata) enquired about the issue during one of his meetings with the WB Government. It appears that these gentlemen (at WB Government) only answers when businessnessmen intervene. I had written two letters to the editors of Statesman and Daily Telegraph regarding the conversion. I believe that one of the letters was published but do not know the name of the newspaper. Kajalda wrote to me via an e-mail that he will wait couple of weeks to see what happens at the state level and then he will write a personal letter to the President regarding this issue. Kajalda knows Mr. Kalam personally through his association with NASA. If BECDU Governing Body approaches the Chief Minister, it will have a positive effect. Anyway, I hope that your efforts are successful. Let me know if I can be of any help.
With all the best,
|Comments by Webmaster for Dr. Karmakar from India on Monday, November 24, 2003 at 15:20 - IP Logged |
|From: Santanu Kumar Karmakar |
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:05:42 +0530 (IST)
Ref: Govt. of WB Turned Down dated 30.10.2003 (website: becollege.org)
I am happy to go on record that today is Bengal Engineering College Foundation Day (founded on 24.11.1856). I am extremely sorry that I could not contact you at the critical juncture because of about a month long delay of restoring of our institute's network. Life was paralysed during this period. I read the negative reply of MIC regarding conversion of BECDU to an Institute of National Importance like IIT. Also I find the reaction of a few alumni in this regard. After receiving this shocking news, I immediately called for an informal meeting with a few senior faculty members along with the Registrar on Saturday (22.11.2003). Dr. Sabyasachi SenGupta, an alumnus (1973EE, e-mail: email@example.com) joined here as the Registrar taking lien from IIT-Kharagpur. He is quite conversion with the working of IIT system. The registrar has also started taking relevant moves in this regard. It is now decided that the BECDU authority will meet soon with the MIC to convince him for sending the proposal to MHRD. If it fails, we will meet with the Hon'ble Chief Minister with our proposal. The details of the outcome will follow.
24th October, 2003
|Comments by Piyali Ray from United States on Friday, November 21, 2003 at 14:51 - IP Logged |
|I would request the BEC Alums to craft a petition to the Central Government and not bank on the State Government. It does not help to sort help from the latter because the recognition of BEC as a leading institution in India is not within the scope of the State Govt.I know there are a lot of influential BEC Alums in Calcutta/India/Overseas who could drive this initiative.However, the front end interaction need to be done by the ones in India.|
Piyali Ray (1990 Arch)
|Comments by Anindya Ghoshal from United States on Sunday, November 16, 2003 at 07:56 - IP Logged |
|It is incredible that very few seems to be outraged that the GOWB chose to turn the appeal down but also reply through a midlevel government official. The act itself reflects as how GOWB looks down upon BEC's alumni. I think Mr. Minister had little clue to what it takes to be a Chief Technologist at NASA Dryden. Actually I had it with this GOWB, I'm very inclined to take it to the Central Govt. directly. I request to the rest of the alumni who feels similarly to do so too.|
|Comments by Debabrata Kar from India on Friday, November 14, 2003 at 03:59 - IP Logged |
|I am happy with the new university being named SHIBPUR UNIVERSITY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY so long as it is given an autonomous status , run by Scientists and Technocrats and kept free from political interference. |
|Comments by Swapan Saha from United States on Friday, November 07, 2003 at 16:19 - IP Logged |
You are correct! Unfortunately, we are not there yet, united and focused! Hopefully once we bring all local chapters together at the global alumni web site, we can have our global organization and appropriate teams to lead important alumni activities beyond geographic and comfort zones. However, we can continue our activities on individual basis!
By the way, Tarun Basu and Kajal Gupta are working very hard to organize alumni with Dr. S. Karmakar for his particular cause.
|Comments by Siddhartha Banerjee from India on Friday, November 07, 2003 at 07:57 - IP Logged |
|To the effect to convert BEC to a institute of national importance what I believe that people who are influencial and effective of BEC alumni should form a committee and should meet Prime Minister for the purpose. |
|Comments by Webmaster for Tarun Basu from United States on Friday, October 31, 2003 at 16:00 - IP Logged |
|Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:36:20 -0800 (PST)|
Mr. Manotosh Biswas
Government of West Bengal
Higher Education Department
Bikash Bhavan, Salt Lake, Kolkata-91
Ref: Your letter No. 569(7)–Edn (T)dated October 30,
Dear Mr. Biswas:
I thank you very much for responding to my letter on behalf of the Minister-in-Charge, Higher Education. I congratulate the Government of West Bengal for initiating the process to convert B.E. College (Deemed University) to a full-fledged University, as it will remove a big confusion regarding the status of the institution. However, it is not going to change the perception of the quality of the institution to the outside world. It is going to be treated as a
“no-name” institution and there will a big question mark about its standard.
I understand that very few people in other parts of India knows anything about BECDU and as a result, graduates of the institute are not treated at par with those from the better- known institutes. The situation is even worse outside India. Thus changing the status to University named Shibpur University of Science and Technology is not going to help the students from West Bengal.
Our request to convert the institute to IIT, Shibpur would have taken care of this problem. I am sure that the Cabinet of West Bengal Government is aware of the importance of brand name in marketing. IITs have earned worldwide reputation with respect to the
quality of education as well as students. Graduates from IITs are more marketable. They are treated differently in USA and get preferential treatment for admission to the graduate programs. While I understand that WB Government will be losing control of the institute to the Central Government if it is converted to IIT, it will be definitely good for West Bengal. Having one IIT at Kharagpur should not
preclude to having a second IIT. When University of Roorke became IIT-Roorke, it was the second IIT in Uttarpradesh at the time (IIT-Kanpur being the other
one). Most of the states will love to have this kind of opportunity. Few years back, people of Assam were
agitating to have an IIT in their state.
Considering those facts, I would request the Minister-in-Charge to take a second look at this issue. Controlling the administration should not be a factor in deciding the future of the institute. In this connection may I point out that when it comes to the interest of a particular state, members from both parties from that state work together? If we do not look at the interest of the people of West Bengal,future generation would not judge us favorably.
I thank you again for your e-mail and would request you to forward this letter to the MIC, Higher Education. I would be looking forward for a positive response.
Tarun K. Basu BE, ME (Cal), CE (Columbia), MBA (Carnegie Mellon),
PE (NY, TX, IL, LA), M.ASCE, M.ASME Arlington, TX 76001
|Comments by ANINDYA from India on Friday, October 31, 2003 at 09:44 - IP Logged |
|I think the comments made by Mr.A.Ghosal is absolutely right.but it's our duty to convert out institution into an IIT or A CENTER OF EXCELLENCE.it is a duty of both the past,present and future students of BEC |
|Comments by A. Ghoshal from United States on Friday, October 31, 2003 at 06:00 - IP Logged |
|I always thought it was a mistake to approach West Bengal Govt. They don't want BEC to be granted an IIT status because that would diminish their political influence. I think we should directly take our appeal to the Central Govt. to convert BEC into an IIT. As far I remember the PM being quoted recently saying that they are considering atleast 5 institutions to be upgraded to IIT status. |